Ja nevim, jak to je s tim slovem "bytelny". Asi bych spis rekl, ze tam ma byt "bitelny", jako ze to snese, kdyz se do toho bude bit. Ale logika neni vsechno, zejmena v cestine. Dneska nemam k dispozici zdroj spravnych odpovedi v tomto oboru, ale do zitrka to zjistim. :-)
Podle tohoto slavného výtvoru to vypadá, že správně je téměř jistě "bytelný": http://ucnk.ff.cuni.cz/verejny.php . (Teda pokud se tomu dá věřit, když to mají pod palcem informatici :-)
Ono i to "bitelny" je spravne, ale s trochu jinym vyznamam. Pokud je neco "bitelne", tak to muzeme bit, stejen jako "pitelne" muzeme pit a "riditelne" muzeme ridit. Sice ne nenapada kontext, ve kterem by melo ono slovo smysl (nejblizsi podobny termin, ktery jsem slysel pouzit v mluvene reci, byl "nezabitelny" u procesu, ktery nereagoval ani na SIGKILL), ale on urcite uz nekdo neco vymysli :-)
Ne, pitne a pitelne neni to same. Pitne (treba "pitna voda") znamena, ze piti je zdravotne nezavadne. Ale pitelne (treba "pitelne pivo") znamena, ze sice napoj neni nejlepsi chuti, ale da se pit. Napoj, ktery je pitny, nemusi byt nutne pitelny a naopak (teba takovy metanol je pro nektere lidi pitelny, ale v zadnem pripade nemuze byt uvazovan jako pitny), jinak receno pitny je atribut chemicky (urceny slozenim), ale pitelny senzoricky (urceny chuti).
Jinak toto slovo jsem slysel z ust mych byvalych spoluzaku celkem casto, hlavne pri klasifikaci jednolivych znacek piva, kde pitelny byl nejnizsi stupen na stupnici kvality piva, pri kterem se pivo jeste konzumovalo.
a chcel som to stripnut ale kedze ste isto zdatny aj v eng nie len v dizajne. Takych ako Vy su tony, co nepochopili ze to nieje o dizajne, zatial.
Dear Community
Design.
Many people seem to expect an explanation of "design" from Openmoko. This isn't going to happen. At least not today. Design isn't something static that I can stop and say here is exactly what Openmoko wants. 1+1 = 2. We try not to talk so much about features or design styles of future products. For the simple reason that we’re not so sure what they will look like ourselves. Design, for us, is the process in which we start by pursuing a few essential ideas and allow for the final result to come into being. Notice that I am not talking about moving pixels. Nor I'm not talking about colors or fonts. Design, in my opinion, is not about technical skill. It's about personal struggle. It's the process by which you relentlessly force yourself to focus on exposing your essential ideas. This cannot be patched and merged like source codes. Imagine Malevich and Monet each painting half of the same painting. The result would surely depress them both. Being open doesn't mean we put the essential ideas behind each product to a public vote. Being open means we provide you with the tools to change our decisions.
Like anything highly creative, design is always highly subjective. Even if I would explain the essential ideas of our products to everyone, they would not make sense in the way I want them to. Because you are only seeing one part of a very intricate long-term plan. You would need to work with us, full time, for many months before Openmoko's vision would really make sense. I can only show you the tangible pieces -- products. Our company is open. You are always invited into this space. Don't forget you are watching serious people work their ass' off. We are mechanics and will certainly yell, "Fuck!" when we smash our fingers or break things. All engineering is public from day one. It is humanly impossible for us not to show you things that are unfinished, inaccurate, flawed, and even self-destructive at times. But we have faith in what we're doing. Openness is our foundation. It's not a marketing buzzword. So my only question for you is, "Do you want to watch, or help?". Because if you want to just stand around and criticize our work, I will have to ask you to leave the shop. People are working here. We're trying to "Free your Phone". Stop bashing things like ASU. This is our work and we are in the earliest of stages. We want to share it with you. Understand that we are not even close to satisfied with it in its current state. But we can see the direction and we love how it's coming together. This is the design process in full effect.
Think of our products as museums. We're building the environment. Each one different from the next. You'll get all the free art supplies you could imagine because we want you to add your own meaning. You choose: consume, create, or both. Either way you create your own meaning. It's about you. Our design is more like non-design. We try to "remove" anything obvious. And focus on what's meaningful. We're not trying to launch a carefully crafted message with a bling-filled user interface. We're building an empty vessel for you to fill with your ideas. We focus on making products that are open and simple. Only products that are open can grow as you grow. Only something simple can be used by everyone.
My mom can install Firefox plugins. Can your mom personalize your FreeRunner?
Like Will already said, by removing a manual keyboard button we are forced to self-organize using the resources in our environment. Resources such as our wiki and our Installer are still badly broken. We need to fix these. We need to make them accessible for "normal people". Every element "removed" is a chance to organize information in ways that are meaningful for others. Whether you like our design or not isn't even the question. You have all the tools you could possibly want to change it.
At Openmoko, we're trying as hard as we can to not over design. Could you imagine walking into a museum where the museum itself looked better than the artwork? We're trying to give you the environment to self-organize. Your code. Your ideas. Your emotions. And then share them back with others. The entire point of our "Installer" is to provide a simple way to bring the excitement and energy of our community into the Neos of normal people. Why else would we invest so much time and money into things like our framework? Or even the little things like opening our CAD files and our schematics? We're building you a museum to showcase the wonderful diversity of this community. It's a foundation for you to stand on. We want your applications. Your ideas in the form of packages of what the buttons can do. Change anything you want to our interface and we will gladly deliver it to everyone. Your music for sound events. Your themes. Speak with your work, not so much with your emails. Let's organize the best parts of mobile FOSS as packages easily installable for the world. We're not going to build yet another App Store.
We must end these unproductive arguments about whose design ideas are better. Should the keyboard be manual or automatic -- this so misses the point of Openmoko! The "killer app" of tomorrow is not going to be software or some hardware device. It's going to be the social practices they make possible.
We each have our own ways of understanding and making meanings. You are free to create your own meanings. Organize your ideas into our wiki and our Installer. Make a package that somebody can easily install for a manual keyboard. Show people the power of open. Let them make their own meanings. For if we cannot organize our ideas in ways non-developers can understand, why even bother? Why struggle so hard to make totally open devices when you can already download thousands of random hacks and applications for an iPhone?
This is Openmoko. We are different. We are open to life. We are never closed, perfect or complete. We embrace diversity. Open means we are free to change the fundamental way information is processed in the mobile world. Let's do this!
Now is the time for our work to speak for itself. I'm out of words.
Every element "removed" is a chance to organize information in ways that are meaningful for others. Whether you like our design or not isn't even the question. You have all the tools you could possibly want to change it.
Takže když budu u toho chtít hardware klávesnici, 10 tlačítek, kryt ve tvaru třeba kolečka, tak mám prostředky a nástroje jak toho dosáhnout ?
nezlobte se na me, ale nafocene to mobhlo byt lepe (prilis nizke F - tim padem ostra jen velmi mala cast foceneho objektu.. cili 80% detailu neni poradne videt) :-/
Kvalita by samozřejmě utrpěla (otázka je, jak moc by to vadilo u finálního rozlišení 800x600), ale s tou hloubkou ostrosti má JeCh pravdu, však si to zkuste (jiná věc je, zdali v daném případě nešlo přiclonit).
Vzhledem k tomu, že obrázky mají 0.5 Mpx, tak kvalita nefocením z větší dálky a oříznutím utrpí naprosto minimálně. Že se tím vyřeší problém s nízkou hloubkou ostrosti ví každý začínající fotograf. Až se budete příště chtít do někoho navážet, ujistěte se, že máte pravdu a nepíšete nesmysly.
Tak nevim, ktery je lepsi. Ta N810 se mi zda o neco povedenejsi. Hardware klavesnicka, stylus zapichnutej v tele pristroje, klasickej 3.5 jack. Je teda trochu vetsi a nema GSM, ale od toho mam svuj starickej telefonek, od kteryho nechci nic jineho nez aby volal. Nejvic me stve na N810, ze se prakticky nikde neprodava a kdz nekde ano, tak je to pochybny obchod nebo je tam za 9000. Hmm pockam do Vanoc jestli klesne cena a koupim jednoho z trojice EEE vs N810 vs Freerunner, ale zatim to vyhrava N810 protoze notebook i telefon uz mam...
Nevím kterej jack je klasickej, ale je dobré si dát pozor na to, že tenhle jack má 4 kontaktní plošky. Krom 2 kanálů pro zvuk je tam i mikrofon. Mikrofon jsem zatim netestoval, ale 3 pinovej 2.5jack do toho sice jde, ale tak nějak tam pořádně nesedí. Podnět pro možný budoucí "Audio" článek.
no mas pravdu... a vetsi rolzliseni... jen to neni telefon..... a konstrukce obzvlast vysouvaci klavesnice... obcas me udivuze uz z ni nemam dva dily...
Presne tak, take cekam na prvni skutecne recenze telefonu HTC G1 s operacnim systemem Android. Jestli to bude umet pracovat i v off-line rezimu (pridavat kontakty kdyz nejsem pripojeny a po pripojeni teprve sesynchronizovat; pouzivat GPS v off-line tak, ze nactu si mapy a pak to v aute pouzivam jako klasickou GPS bez nutnosti pripojeni k internetu), tak do toho na 100% pujdu. FreeRunner je dost nedodelany, aby ho clovek mohl normalne pouzivat. Na hrani mam pocitac, nemusim si hrat jeste s funkcnosti mobilu.
No právě...
Nejde jen o offline režim. Jde o to, že Android celkově zachází s vašimi privátními daty jakoby byla málem veřejná. Takže pro mě připadá v úvahu pouze pokud mně někdy umožní dělat synchronizaci s PC přes USB případně BT. O nějaké online synchronizace neprojevuji sebemenší zájem - já opravdu nechci, aby se třeba moje poznámky dostaly bůhvíkam - s tím ať si Google trhne nohou.
tak tak.. i kdyz ja se spis tesim na G2, o ktere jsem si prave precetl (HTC Touch HD a Androidem). Co se tyce zachazeni s privatnimi daty, je podle me jen otazka casu, nez se objevi soft pro synchronizaci s PC, vzdyt Android neobsahuje - teda aspon dle mych postrehu - krome par online aplikaci od Googlu skoro zadny soft. Jen aby se toho chytlo dost lidi, aby byl duvod ty aplikace vyvyjet.
Hlavne ze to ma vestavene ocko na reminek. Clovek si to tak snadno zavesi na krk aby se to neroztriskalo az to vypadne z kapsy. Nebo reminek aby to naopak clovek mohl z ty kapsy vytahovat. Nebo na rezaty retez kdyz chce clovek byt punk. To pogumovani je taky dobry.
Z toho iPhonu by me kleplo - to je pro lidi co se nijak realne nepohybuji (skejt, kolo, verejna doprava) tak si tu choulostivou krasotinku muzou lestit ve svem modnim latkovem obalu.
Za iPhone bych se stydel, za tohle ne, protoze zde mam nad strojem vladu. iPhone ma dneska kazdej kdo ma diru do zadku, timhle se clovek asapon odlisi, je necim vic!
Vydrzi Freerunner to promoceni destem?
Fotky se mi libej - mala hloubka ostrosti dodava profesionalni nadech. Koho zajima, jaky vzorek ubrusu na stole mel autor?
Jo, ale ty by sis pro odlisnost klidne i na koleni smotal opticke pojitko! :-)
Ne vazne, tohle je daleko lepsi vecicka nez i*, muzes se v tom neomezene hrabat, coz Ti nikdo jiny nenabidne. Jen doufam, ze na tom bezi gcc. Kdybych se v BUSu nudil. :-)
3.5mm i 2.5mm konektor je špatný nápad. Telefon člověk většinou tahá v kapse, a na konektor působí poměrně velká síla. Proto se nejprve bude ozývat prskání při každém pohybu, a po čase konektor odejde. Na mých walkmanech, MP3 playerech a PDA odešlo pěkných pár 3.5mm konektorů. To už je lepší mini-USB s redukcí na 3.5mm.
Oficiální hmotnost 185g opravdu šokuje. Přístroj má design a hmotnost cihly (je otázka, s jakou přesností autor vážil). Absence stylusu a dodaná příšernost je opravdu... příšerná.
Odolnost záleží hlavně na dispayi. Pokud je to tvrdý display, jako má HTC Touch, tak vydrží prakticky všechno. Měkký display, jako má moje X500+, se zničí snadno.
GPS konektor není tak neobvyklý, jak si autor možná myslí. X500+ i HTC Diamond ho má, řada dalších přístrojů také. Většina přístrojů ho ale má pečlivě zakrytý/zaslepený - já ho na svém X500+ nenašel, dokud jsem to neobjevil někde na inetu.